DRAWING LINES! Week in Review 10/30/13


nbcHappy Thanksgiving! Well, at least in a few weeks. Yep November is here and its time to get ready to eat a shit load of food and lapse into a coma on the Lazy Boys and couches while watching that Star Wars marathon on the Spike Channel. its weird , even though I own like all 67 versions of the Star Wars trilogy, I cant help but watch The Empire Strikes Back when it’s on network television. And I’ll even get pissed at the commercials when they come on while watching it  – “Man come on! Not another commercial! Yoda was just about to bitch slap Luke into a being a motherfucking Jedi!” I do that same thing with Jaws, I cant help it I gotta support my favorite movies when they are on in TV. You know what else I support? Bullet Points! As Anakin Skywalker once said, “Yippee!”

  • Hey did you hear about Sandman this week? I’m sure you had to have heard something about it, but just in case you somehow missed it allow me to get you caught up. Yeah, Neil Gaiman came back this week with a brand spanking new Sandman comic – one that takes place before Sandman # 1 – which came out 25 years ago. This weeks Overture #1 was a brilliant start to a “lost” story and a perfect way to dive back into the world of Morpheus. I can understand why some people might be put off by Gaiman’s tale of the Dream King and all of its Gothic glory, but honestly all the praise you’ve read about is not hype –  Sandman was one of the best written things in this universe, it just happen to take the form of a comic book. If you have never read the series you are doing yourself and your brain and heart a disservice. Gaiman is a master and to read his grand opus is to know how it is to properly tell a tale. Right from the get go in issue #1 from 1988, Neil drops hints and foreshadowing of events that will not come into play until 50 issues and years later. Who the fuck does that anymore? Who the fuck plans that far ahead? Who the fuck has the talent to do that? Not too many. I loved Overture #1 (not all the ad’s that DC decided to run in the comic though. What the hell DC? ) and adding to the magnificence is J. H. Williams III and his other-worldly art work. My friends, it does not, and will not, get much better then this. Read it.
  • Whats up with Annuals? why do companies still do them? Annuals use to be special events back in the days, Stories that were just a little extra icing on the cake – nothing major. Nowadays they are part of the main story lines of the comics and if you miss one of the Annuals you are fucked beyond all recognition. I’m not a fan of the modern annual. Get rid of them DC – be gone with them I say! They are too expensive and most of the time poorly written and drawn. You can tell they are stretching out a normal 22 page script into a 33 page comic. It’s not right you bastards. Quit taking advantage of us dorks! (that’s right I called us/me dorks. I don’t take offense to the term (neither should you) or equate it to being called “a punk” – heaven forbid. Give me a fucking break. I’m a dork, Nerd, What have you. Big fucking deal. I could give a flying rats ass what some poetry reading asshole thinks. Go get your uptight dick sucked by a 5 dollar crack whore, it might do you some good. Jesus Christ where did that rant come from? Yikes, I’m even offending myself here! =) )
  • Damn this Drawing Lines is probably the most foul mouthed one I’ve ever written! I feel so proud of it – like I’ve given birth to a little profane, bearded baby that yells “fuck” at everyone in the hospital. Come on little guy, let’s take you home.
  • I haven’t gotten one single entry for our new contest yet. Whats up dudes? Doesn’t anyone have some designing skills out there? Come on man, NBC needs a new logo and you need some free comics right? I’ll even sweeten the pot – how about the winner gets 50 bucks worth of comics. If you design a logo and we like it and use it here at NBC, we will ask you what trade paper backs you want, then buy them for your logo making ass. There  has got to be one of you out there that can make the letters N. B. C look cool. I’ll give you a few more weeks before I break down and do it myself ( I got some artistic skills. Need i remind you of Raiders of the Lost Idol? No – actually never mind, I don’t need to remind you of that comic.)
Ok, its time for user reviews comments and general user shenanigans! Let’s see, who can I pick on today? Ahh I know…

There was an interview on CBR where Hickman said this was the weakest issue of Infinity:) basically that while #4 & #6 had big moments, #5′s job is to link the two issues together.

(and yeah, I’ve been irritated by the fact that Starbrand & Captain Universe have destroyed entire armadas at convenient moments by remembering that they could).


If you love Bendis & Francavilla you’ll likely love this, Francavilla drawing pure science fiction and Bendis writing the quippiest of quippy dialogue. I love the former and am generally indifferent to the later, fortunately it’s a visual tour-de-force from the big Italian, culminating in a brilliant final splash page of [REDACTED], hey look! I can write like a Marvel solicitation!:)

Did you miss rating your comics this week on those polls? I’ll tell you I sure as hell didn’t miss creating the fuckers. Once again I’ll guess what I think your favorite comics were this week. mmmm, how about….
and SAGA #15
During the months of November and December I’ll be hosting here in Drawing Lines an event in the vain of Battle Royal, The Hunger Games, and Avengers Arena. I call it…


The Ultimate Super-Hero Battle! 

There will be four divisions for the contestants:

  • Division 1: Heroes Without Powers (ie: Batman, Captain America)
  • Division 2: Heroes with Psychic Powers (ie: Jean Grey, Harbinger) 
  • Division 3: Heroes with Super Strength (ie: The Hulk, The Thing) 
  • Division 4: Heroes with Multiple Powers (ie: Superman, Spider-Man)

Today you you be voting for your favorite Division 1 Heroes. Read their Stats carefully, then cast your vote for which hero you think would win in a fight. Choose wisely and then see if your picks will make it to the Final Ultimate fight at the end. Alright let’s get to it!



character_bio-batman_576Batman: stats

  • Genius-level intellect
  • Peak physical and mental conditioning
  • Master martial artist, acrobat, detective, escapologist, strategist, swordsman, tactician, and marksman
  • Use of high-tech equipment, weapons, armors, & gadgets
  • Master of stealth
  • Master of disguise
  • Highly proficient with technology
  • Access to vast wealth and criminal records
  • Trained computer hacker
  • Photographic memory
Iron_Man_bleeding_edgeIron Man: Stats
  • Genius-level intellect
  • A cyberpathic link with a prior version of his powered armored suit
  • strength and durability
  • Supersonic flight at Mach 3
  • Energy repulsors
  • Missiles
  • Regenerative life support (sometimes powered by solar power)


2753066-screen_shot_2012_12_14_at_8.45.48_pmDamian Wayne: Stats
  • Excellent athlete and acrobat;
  • exceptional martial artist trained by the League of Assassins
  • access to high tech equipment
  • good detective skills
  • good business skills
  • gift for voice imitation.
2951035-8960601285-niteoNite Owl: Stats
  • Genius-level intellect
  • Wields and employs owl-themed gadgets and weaponry, including a flying/submarine owl shaped ship (that he affectionately refers to as “Archie”)
  • Great athlete and hand-to-hand combatant


elektra-assassin-millerElektra: Stats
  • Peak human physical ability
  • Master of virtually all martial arts, particularly ninjutsu
  • Low-level mind control and telepathic communication
  • Expert with various types of weaponry, particularly her trademark twin sai
BW_Cv17Batwoman: Stats
  • Exceptional athlete and martial artist
  • highly skilled detective
  • has access to bat-themed weapons and equipment.


tumblr_m44xvyLYsM1r8818io1_250Ozymandias: Stats
  • Genius-level intellect
  • Master strategist
  • Amazing athlete and martial artist
  • Photographic memory
  • Possesses sophisticated weapons and equipment
  • Limited super speed and reaction time
cpt177577LARGECaptain America: Stats
  • Peak of human physical conditioning
  • Expert acrobat, tactician, and marksman
  • Master martial artist and shield fighter
  • Excellent field commander
  • Wields his vibranium-steel alloy shield with hyper-kinetic senses


GA_Cv17Green Arrow: Stats
  • Superb archer
  • Peak human physical condition
  • Highly-trained martial artist, athlete and swordsman
  • Possesses a Recurve Bow with a variety of trick arrows
Hawkeye_2012_2Hawkeye: Stats
  • Grandmaster archer
  • Uses a variety of trick arrows
  • Superb athlete
  • Exceptional arm strength
  • Enhanced eye-sight
  • Master martial artist, acrobat, marksman and swordsman
  • Experienced pilot


nightwing_480_posterNightwing: Stats
  • Peak Human Conditioning: Strength and speed
  • Master Acrobat
  • Master Detective
  • Master Martial Artist
  • Weapon Proficiency
  • Stealth
  • Genius Level Intelligence
2633677-moon_knight__6___page_4Moon Knight: Stats
  • Superb athlete
  • Master at martial arts and hand-to-hand combatant
  • Resistance to some psychic assaults
  • Skilled acrobat, gymnast, and detective
  • Expert aviator and marksman
  • Possesses both traditional and sophisticated weaponry


punisherThe Punisher: Stats
  • Expert in military and guerrilla tactics, strategy, and demolitions
  • Highly trained in both armed and unarmed combat
  • Stealth and infiltration expert
  • Special Forces training
  • CQC expert
  • Peak human physical condition
  • Exceptionally high pain tolerance
watchmen-rorschachRorschach: Stats
  • Agility
  • Escape Artist
  • Gadgets
  • Intellect
  • Stamina
  • Stealth
  • Tracking
  • Unarmed Combat
  • Weapon Master


batgirl-1Batgirl: Stats
  • Electronic interaction
  • Gadgets
  • Intellect
  • Leadership
  • Marksmanship
  • Power Item
  • Stealth
  • Technopathy
  • Tracking
  • Unarmed Combat
  • Weapon Master
1280962-widow060606Black Widow: Stats
  • Slowed aging
  • Enhanced immune system
  • Abnormally superior athletic condition
  • Extensive military, hand-to-hand combat, martial arts, and espionage training
  • Hypnosis
  • Enhanced psychological defenses

67 thoughts on “DRAWING LINES! Week in Review 10/30/13”

  1. Ghostmann’s been buuussssy. I could submit a logo idea, one so horrible we get a thousand better ones so people don’t have to look at mine 😉

    I hate having the Punisher on a list like this, he has guns. By the time Rorscach thinks of an effective and surprising strategy Frank Castle just whips out his guns and blows him away. POW! Now if it was hand to hand, no weapons, psycho a psycho; that’d be a contest…

    1. See what happens when I don’t have to fuck with making Pull Lists anymore? awesomeness is what happens!!!!

      and don’t count Rorschach out just yet – dudes got skills

          1. I love Rorschach more, but voted Punisher. USMC motherfuckers are hardcore. He’s been trained to murder people with state of the art weaponry.
            Now, if we’re talking hand to hand, that’s we’re it gets interesting. Being psychopathic can take you a long way, but arguments can be made that both are such.
            It’s kinda like what I say about Batman/Joker fights: Batman knows karate, but Joker knows car-azy (crazy)!!!!

            1. I was considering it to be hand to hand which I would have to give the edge to Rorsach but yeah USMC is no joke. Plus he’s a Vietnam vet. Probably the most interesting fight of the above mentioned.

              1. Is Frank still a Vietnam vet? Didnt they change it to Desert Storm? Did tony Stark still sell weapons of mass destruction in ‘Nam? What year is it in the Marvel U? How old are these guys. 😉

                1. I think most characters are just assumed to be aged about 10 years in the Marvel U but Ennis did that Born mini along with the Fury stuff and put Frank firmly into the Nam pretty recently so I guess we are suspending some disbelief on this one. He’d be what like 65? Vision could be kind of a problem, ha.

                  1. I’m pretty sure that Iron Man’s origin was updated to the Middle East, like they did in the film. Don’t know ’bout Castle. Maybe he’s been borrowing some of Fury’s anti-aging pills . . ?

  2. I want to design a new NBC! logo, but I’ve been too busy designing my “DON’T BLAME ME – I VOTED FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA” bumper sticker. 🙂

    I’m also working on a Rorschach campaign bumper sticker that would both show my support for the character and test the psychological characteristics of the drivers behind me. 🙂

  3. I totally agree about annuals. There aren’t that many gems out there, especially these days. For every Avengers Annual #10 there’s a ton of dross. The old sixties annuals were great (early Amazing Spider-Man annuals, Avengers annuals etc.) but after that they are real hit or miss. I get the solicits and dread seeing annuals listed these days. DC seem to use them to fill in the curse of the fifth week, which is an OK idea but try and bring a bit more A game too it. Good creative teams that are too slowly or busy to commit to a regular title. Make them an event again, not just filler for the schedules.

    As for concluding storylines from regular books. Yeah, if you can make it worthwhile. Last week’s Green Lantern annual was a waste. The whole story should’ve been dealt with in a couple of regular GL issues and not involved a crossover and end in an annual. The whole thing was padded out way beyond the plot’s ability to cope. Just like BotA and Infinity (still holding out some hope for Forever Evil).

    Batman #24 was a lesson in how to do it right. Regular creative team, larger sized issue but nice card stock covers, nice interiors, a hefty book but well worth the $7.99 price tag. Much more worthwhile. This is the standard they should be working toward. I’d rather pay the extra once in awhile for a regular book if it comes with that kind of quality, than $4.99 for a mediocre (or worse) annual or bloody bookends.

    I’m hoping that Marvel looked at Batman #24 and apply that kind of standard to the high priced Marvelman reprints.

  4. Drawing Lines! has definitely become one of my favorite features of this site (pull list is #1). It’s become part of my Sunday rituals of football, beer, comics, web browsing and general geeking out with the fam.
    This has got to be the best installment to date.
    Nothing But Concussions is a stoke of genius that is bound to stir up some good debates and down right arguments. I feel the testosterone flowing already.
    And I totally relate on watching shit on TV that I already own. Just last night I ended up watching both The Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade on SyFy after telling myself that I would do no such thing.
    Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m gonna go pick a fight with whomever picked Iron Man over Batman, because they are clearly…wait for it…………NUTS!!!!!!!

    1. Thanks Sitara! I have to say this installment of Drawing Lines flowed like manna from Heaven when I was writing last night. I love it when a post comes together!

      And seriously I really do appreciate you saying the kind things you did, it keeps me motivated to get up off my lazy ass and write some shit and try and make this site fun for you guys that come here. It means SO much to me, and I will never truly be able to express my gratitude – well, maybe 50 bucks worth of comics might express it pretty good. 😉

      1. Dude, I love this fucking site and crew of misfits that you have put together to help run it. When iFanboy closed it’s doors, was a sad day and if I were still capable of tears, they would have flowed from my eyes as wax from a burning candle( kidding, I’ve already admitted to having an inner teenage goth girl, so clearly I enjoy at least some crying 😉 ). But, then you came in wearing a cape and saved the day. Honestly, I enjoy this site much more than I ever did iFanboy. Not hating, I just connect more with the users here.
        It’s like “we’re building a religion. To resist it is useless, it useless to resist it”. I love that Cake song and think of it often when visiting with my amigos here. For those who have never had the pleasure…

          1. Hey, amigo. Scroll down a few comments and you’ll notice that I’ve already began to bring it.
            Feel free to retort and justify your insanity at anytime. 😛 Bring your A game or don’t bother wasting my time. 😉

  5. you hit the bullseye on your thoughts about Batman #24. that is how it should be done! and you know what’s crazy? we have Villains Month to thank for that awesome issue – it gave Snyder and Capullo time to spend on it. Never thought I would say this but, Thanks Jokers Daughter!!!

    1. Wow good point! I guess we do have Jokers Daughter to thank. I just became so much more appreciative of villains month. What a brilliant idea, DC did it!

  6. Seriously. Who the FUCK is this 11% who picked Tony Stark over Bruce Wayne. I mean, Bats has battle prosthetics, too, so armory is not an issue. Bruce has been trained by some of the greatest martial artists in the DCU, does tony even know how to fight without his armor?

    1. Batman has shown he can beat Superman, and has plans (that apparently WORK I might add) that can take out the rest of the JL. He survived Darkseid’s Omega blasts, and has plans within plans within plans.

      Tony Stark is consistently getting caught with his pants down because he never sees a threat coming beforehand, he plans after he gets attacked. Not to mention his plans FAIL spectacurily once in a while (Thor clone in “Civil War”). Without his suit, he is completely vulnerable and got thrashed by Captain America (“Civil War” again. He could be Marvel’s version of Batman in some cases). And Tony constantly has to upgrade his suit to take on threats; Batman is always reading. SEMPER FI’ed MotherF#####!!!

      Your move Sitara 😉

  7. I’m not sure if I’m quite ready to count out DC’s annuals yet. The Swamp Thing Annual this week was a fabulous read. Meanwhile this year’s Animal Man Annual is one of the best single issues of the year so far. Same goes for the Batman & Robin Annual. Aquaman, yeah, not as good, but, at least given the fill-in team I knew going in that it would be less than essential. The Batman Annual earlier in the year was a bit of a let down.

    In the end, it all comes down to how good the creative team is. I didn’t read this week’s Green Lantern, but heard it disappointed. But, I also heard the whole crossover was lackluster, which is probably the greater problem. Personally, I prefer how things are now than in the 90s when DC or Marvel did these huge crossovers that suckered you into buying so much stuff that you had no interest in. At least, now I can decide whether to get an annual or not solely based on how much I’m enjoying the series and/or creative team . . .

      1. There are definitely some good annuals but like I said below I also hate them, cause I’m gonna buy them, I’m gonna spend more and I have to hope they are good. Sounds like a losing strategy.

        1. Also, I’ll say this for DC, they save their annuals for when there’s an extra fifth week in the month — it does make budgeting for them a little easier . . .

          1. I like the 5th week idea!

            I’ll never understand why DC doesn’t ask us how to run their company! I mean really, come on, we obviously have the better ideas! 😉

            1. 88% of Modern Annuals I find unsatisfactory. Disappointing on a personal level. Art, story…whatever. So, statistically speaking, I know I shouldn’t roll the dice. Aquaman pissed me off because they teased me with images of Vostok, then promptly zipped their pants.
              But the upside, as Cosmo pointed out, is that you can tell how essential they’re generally gonna be, so avoiding them is fairly easier and delivering on the 5th week does show some consideration for the fans.

              1. I don’t mind buying an annual that ties into an ongoing story in the regular title, especially if the same writer is involved. Green Lantern may have disappointed, but at least, it was the same series. What I always hated was when Marvel did something like part 1 was in Daredevil Annual, part 2 some X-Man title, then part 3 was in the Hulk. What do any of these books have to do with each other?

  8. Oh, and some of those poll choices were difficult. I really wanted to vote for Batwoman, but had to admit that Elektra probably has the edge of experience in her favor.

    Batman vs Iron Man. Easy choice. Sorry Tony. Better luck with the ladies . . . 🙂

    1. The Elektra and Black Widow battles are a little one sided right now (with both of those respective heroes kicking much ass). The Captain America vs Ozymandias battle is pretty damn close. Gonna follow that one closely.

      1. Ozy and Cap is a difficult one. I mean, does Cap ever actually loose, Cival War notwithstanding. I did vote for Ozy, though.
        Ya know what would be a cool article, one that explores “moral” ambiguity in major characters and their actions (e.g. Ozy murdering 8 million people for world peace. How many people consider that he may have been right? Great debate. Just a thought that I would love to see manifest. 🙂

          1. Thanks, brother. Wasn’t sure if that idea was lost in the shuffle or just politely glossed over.
            I’ve always wanted a shirt that reads “OZY WAS RIGHT”.
            Those questions where morality or lack there of come into play are some of the more interesting and debate stirring.
            Another question might be “should Batman just kill Joker already to save the hundreds of lives Joker will eventually kill?”. Is Batman being selfish?
            Seems like it might fit into Ukerupp’s Examination of things.

              1. Ya know, I may just take you up on that. We just had a baby girl on the 1st, so we are on no sleep. So once my delirium subsides, I may just surprise you with an email that imposes a moral dilemma that’s bound to piss someone off. 🙂

                  1. Thanks, amigo.
                    Say? Don’t you have 2 girls? I have 1 boy already, but no experience with girls. Any advice besides stockpiling guns around the time she turns 13 and boys come a knocking? 😉

                    1. I do have 2 girls – one 15 and one 6 so yeah, I got both ends of the spectrum all at once! =)

                      I will say I’ve heard girls are a little easier to deal with raising up and stuff – you know, the more mature then boys thing – and I suspect that is completely true. I’ve been lucky to have been blessed with two amazing girls that show me what love is really about every day.

                      The only advice I can really give is din’t let em watch Star Wars at age 3 – my little one still isn’t quite over her fear of Chewbacca just yet. 😉

  9. Couple things
    Empire Strikes Back and Jaws are two of the greatest movies ever, if you see them on TV and change the channel you don’t deserve to watch them.

    Annuals just annoy me. Sometimes we get a really nice over sized book worth our time but I would have to say that is rare. I just get upset when I see them come up cause it means, I’m going to buy this and I’m not happy about it.

    When pull lists get taken away Erik gets genius ideas (Nothing But Concussions) and an even fouler mouth (fucks for everyone!)

    No submissions yet! Did you guys hear the awesome prizes!! Lets go people

    Like Sitara said drawing lines is one of my favorite things and this was definitely the best one to date.

    You fuckin crushed it Erik! Nice work!

    1. Thanks Dean! Here is a very special “FUCK YEAH” just for you dude. 😉

      Out of all the posts, reviews, writing I do on this site Drawing Lines is the closest to how I talk in real life. (those pretentious Zero #2 reviews I write are just to impress the ladies – hey wait, there are no ladies here! damn it! Guess I’ll just have to impress Sitara’s inner Goth Girl instead.)

      I gotta feeling the 50 bucks in comics might get some design juices flowing.

      1. If you could see my eyes right now you would notice that I have freshly applied my Crow eyeliner and are batting them profusely in admiration for your gothy poetic waxings.

  10. Strangest comparison that i never would have come up with: Damian vs Nite Owl. Age difference, Damian kills…a lot of calculation and consideration. For me, comes down to mentors. Batman/league of assassins vs Nite owl 1. No brainer.

    1. Nite Owl was a tough guy to match someone with with. I’m pretty sure he would get his ass handed to him by everyone up above there. So in the end I just pitted him against a 10 year old kid.

  11. Great work on DRAWING LINES! Erik, really enjoyed reading your article and all the comments!

    I like annuals, but it sucks how we are obliged to buy them. I like the extended issues but it’s sometimes painfully clear when an issue has been milked to fill the extra space!
    I agree that Batman #24 was a great example of how these things should play out.

    Also, if you google “Thanks Joker’s Daughter” NBC! is the only page on the internet to feature such a phrase!

    Totally agree on the whole ‘Star Jaws’ debate. When your favourite film is broadcast, you feel the need to support it’s ratings! My other half is the same with all the fucking Trek films…all of them!

    Loving Nothing But Concussions!
    I had Damian Wayne VS Nite Owl playing out in my head all Sunday evening! It ended with Dreiberg joining the Court of Owls after the humiliation of being defeated by a child. You’ve no idea of badly I now want to see him show up in an issue of Talon!

    “Ozymandias would figure out how to beat Cap 3 and half years before they actually fought” Funny & true!

  12. thanks gl. your Jokers Daughter quip had me laughing – nice one =)

    dude, I love the idea of Nite Owl joining forces with the Court of Owls! That’s fucking brilliant!

    1. Thanks man. The more I think about it, the more I want to see it.
      One day we might get to see Archie flying over Gotham dropping Talons onto rooftops

      1. I think everyone can tell you’re enjoying yourself. This one was special because of the battle polls but I also laughed at all the swearing 😛

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